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	<title>Comments on: Quicken Online &#8220;Support&#8221; Chat is Awful</title>
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		<title>By: bil</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>bil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hate quicken and have gone back to excel...
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		<title>By: wozofoz</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>wozofoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. This is the most unhelpful company I have ever dealt with. They refuse to register Quicken Personal which I have paid for and do not answer the phone when you ring. My recommendation? Don&#039;t EVER buy a Quicken product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. This is the most unhelpful company I have ever dealt with. They refuse to register Quicken Personal which I have paid for and do not answer the phone when you ring. My recommendation? Don&#8217;t EVER buy a Quicken product.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can get quicken 2001 basic write to f drive and g drive when I am backing up my files</description>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your bank doesn&#039;t support Quicken Mac. There&#039;s a fairly good post about this on the TidBITS forum:

http://emperor.tidbits.com/webx?14@703.81MLabYL2DS.0@.3c55bf45/22

&quot;...Intuit charges...institutions separately for 
Windows and Mac QFX certification. (Hence the lack of Mac support at 
some institutions.) This despite the fact that QFX/OFX is an XML 
formatted text file, and is no different between the two platforms.&quot;

I can verify that by editing the sign-on data in the QFX that&#039;s downloaded from Citibank Direct Access (which is not Mac certified) with a working source (for example, Citibank&#039;s Account Online site for CitiCard users which *is* Mac certified), that the mysterious error message goes away and everything imports just fine. I&#039;ve been doing it for months now.

The whole situation is completely bogus, and IMHO should be illegal. It&#039;s just a big Intuit scam on the banks to get them to pay twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your bank doesn&#8217;t support Quicken Mac. There&#8217;s a fairly good post about this on the TidBITS forum:</p>
<p><a href="http://emperor.tidbits.com/webx?14@703.81MLabYL2DS.0@.3c55bf45/22" rel="nofollow">http://emperor.tidbits.com/webx?14@703.81MLabYL2DS.0@.3c55bf45/22</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Intuit charges&#8230;institutions separately for<br />
Windows and Mac QFX certification. (Hence the lack of Mac support at<br />
some institutions.) This despite the fact that QFX/OFX is an XML<br />
formatted text file, and is no different between the two platforms.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can verify that by editing the sign-on data in the QFX that&#8217;s downloaded from Citibank Direct Access (which is not Mac certified) with a working source (for example, Citibank&#8217;s Account Online site for CitiCard users which *is* Mac certified), that the mysterious error message goes away and everything imports just fine. I&#8217;ve been doing it for months now.</p>
<p>The whole situation is completely bogus, and IMHO should be illegal. It&#8217;s just a big Intuit scam on the banks to get them to pay twice.</p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 03:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, did you ever get a solution?  I am having the same problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, did you ever get a solution?  I am having the same problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Stoneburner</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt Stoneburner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2005 14:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all honesty, I suspect that you are dealing with a technical support person who is pressing function keys that have Macros associated with them.  The messages seem very, very generic.  

In a call center, most of the callers are people who don&#039;t understand how the program works, and most of the operators are just low-wage earners who have no clue how the system works.

The trick is to work your way up the chain, however that&#039;s often where companies end the &quot;free&quot; support.

This is fundamentally why I have big issues with people feeling secure that they have a corporate solutions to fall back on.

For instance, I worked at a company that produced some really fine quality software (honest!) -- we made a good portion of our revenue by selling support contracts that we knew no one would ever need to collect.  I can only think of two occasions we ever went to the customer site -- flying there on a day&#039;s notice was lost in the noise of all the money we raked in.  Furthermore, we knew the problem wasn&#039;t our system, but wanted to provide a stellar performance so we&#039;d get famous word-of-mouth stories out there about us; additionally, we used the opportunity to up sell since they were so happy.

Conversely, I remember the call center at GEnie, which would field questions like &quot;I just bought a keyboard and plugged in to the phone line, but I can&#039;t sign on.&quot;  And the support person would ask, &quot;what&#039;s it say on your screen?&quot;  And the response would be &quot;I need a screen?&quot;  Apparently the guy figured if a keyboard had an RJ11 jack, it went in the wall directly.  Call centers deal with people that aren&#039;t that bright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all honesty, I suspect that you are dealing with a technical support person who is pressing function keys that have Macros associated with them.  The messages seem very, very generic.  </p>
<p>In a call center, most of the callers are people who don&#8217;t understand how the program works, and most of the operators are just low-wage earners who have no clue how the system works.</p>
<p>The trick is to work your way up the chain, however that&#8217;s often where companies end the &#8220;free&#8221; support.</p>
<p>This is fundamentally why I have big issues with people feeling secure that they have a corporate solutions to fall back on.</p>
<p>For instance, I worked at a company that produced some really fine quality software (honest!) &#8212; we made a good portion of our revenue by selling support contracts that we knew no one would ever need to collect.  I can only think of two occasions we ever went to the customer site &#8212; flying there on a day&#8217;s notice was lost in the noise of all the money we raked in.  Furthermore, we knew the problem wasn&#8217;t our system, but wanted to provide a stellar performance so we&#8217;d get famous word-of-mouth stories out there about us; additionally, we used the opportunity to up sell since they were so happy.</p>
<p>Conversely, I remember the call center at GEnie, which would field questions like &#8220;I just bought a keyboard and plugged in to the phone line, but I can&#8217;t sign on.&#8221;  And the support person would ask, &#8220;what&#8217;s it say on your screen?&#8221;  And the response would be &#8220;I need a screen?&#8221;  Apparently the guy figured if a keyboard had an RJ11 jack, it went in the wall directly.  Call centers deal with people that aren&#8217;t that bright.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Pagan</title>
		<link>http://paco.to/2005/quicken-online-support-chat-is-awful/comment-page-1#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Pagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same thing keeps happening to me and when I discussed it with my bank (Citibank) and they tried everything but came to the conclusion the the software is just not reading it.  This makes me wonder if the programers did this on purpose to force people to use their online service to get more money out of its costumers....  I have been trying to work around this since early March....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing keeps happening to me and when I discussed it with my bank (Citibank) and they tried everything but came to the conclusion the the software is just not reading it.  This makes me wonder if the programers did this on purpose to force people to use their online service to get more money out of its costumers&#8230;.  I have been trying to work around this since early March&#8230;.</p>
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